Choose your leader, choose your future

On Monday night, one of the Ottawa ridings held a debate between the three Green Party leadership contenders: David Chernushenko, Elizabeth May, and Jim Fannon. Being a high-minded citizen journalist, and a long time supporter of the Green Party, I invited four little-g Greens out to the debate to see what they thought of the contenders.

What they had to say was interesting: there are two great candidates for leader. Each one would make a strong leader, but each appeals to a dramatically different crowd. They said that this election isn’t about choosing the best person for the job, it’s about choosing the direction for the party.

The informal focus group consisted of Alex, John, Cath, and Julie. They are like me: in their late twenties and early thirties, informed, and concerned with the state of our country. They are socially progressive. They want to see a Canada that can provide for our children and grandchildren as well as it provided for us. But they aren’t Green Party members, and they wouldn’t call themselves environmentalists. They are the centre that every party is fighting for.

How each candidate came across

All four agreed that David and Elizabeth both looked good, and that Jim Fannon’s unilingualism ruled him out as a serious national contender. Similarly, they reached agreement on how David and Elizabeth came across.

David got top marks for his knowledge, practicality, and pragmatism. Both John and Alex praised his “thoughtful” answers to a number of questions, while Julie described him as “trustworthy”. Where he fell down, however, was in his passion. He took a while to warm up to some of the questions, and, in others, he came across as somewhat stiff. While his answers were intelligent and interesting, he didn’t make them “punchy” enough, occasionally drawing them out.

Meanwhile, Elizabeth scored with her passion, knowledge, and ability to speak in soundbites. Her speaking ability stood out, especially her ability to make comments memorable. Interestingly, the group agreed that Elizabeth also had a passion problem. She came across as someone who felt so strongly about things that she wouldn’t be able to compromise. At the same time, all four agreed that some of her strongly held views seemed unattainable and unrealistic.

Jim Fannon, on the other hand, split the opinion of the focus group. They agreed that he was entertaining, fun, and approachable. He seemed less knowledgeable than David and Elizabeth, and had a habit for mentioning his business. He’s the kind of person that could make the party look good, but seemed likely to shoot his mouth off. Someone (Cath? Alex?) compared him to Carolyn Parrish. His strength was his populism. When didn’t have things to say, he fell back to telling the crowd to buy a membership in the party. Alex seemed the most taken with him, saying that he seemed sincere.

Which leader to choose?

All four of the consensus group agreed that both David and Elizabeth would make a strong leader, but that their leadership would make the party appeal to two very different crowds.

They said that Elizabeth’s inspirational speaking will draw in the activists, the environmentalists, and those who want to believe that the world can change. In Julie’s words: Elizabeth would make the Green Party look more like the NDP. Elizabeth would fail to draw in the more pragmatic and less idealistic folks from the other parties. Perhaps most importantly, she would reinforce the impression that the Green Party is just a bunch of tree-hugging hippies.

According to the group, David would present a very different face. His pragmatic approach would appeal to a broader audience. His apparent willingness to compromise and listen would make him a stronger ambassador to non-Greens. Whereas Elizabeth would draw votes away from the NDP, everyone agreed that David’s reasonable nature could draw votes away from all of the other parties. In Cath’s words: David seems like he could appeal to more than just “leftists”.

Jim Fannon’s unilingualism hurt him a lot, and so did his lack of knowledge. He was quick to pick up on good ideas from the other candidates, and when he was knowledgeable, he sounded good. But both Julie and John were a little creeped out by his constant sales pitch. Cath called him entertaining, but said that he babbled, and told the crowd “a little too much information”.

Who they chose

The focus group was unanimous. David was their choice. They said he came across as trustworthy, pragmatic, and intelligent. They said that he was the kind of person that Canadians would accept, and the kind of person Canadians would listen to.

7 Responses to “Choose your leader, choose your future”

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  • 2006.Jun.14 @ 22:13

    I just watched the debate on cpac (wed) and was very impressed with both candidates. The only reason I’m looking at the Green Party for the first time, rather than my traditional Liberal support is because of Elizabeth May. That being said, I found it hard to say that I liked her more than David. I liked them both. Sometimes I liked her more, sometimes I liked him more. I wish I coudl choose them both.

  • 2006.Jun.14 @ 22:59

    Thanks PP,

    I have been following the leadership race with great intent and altough I couldn’t be at the Ottawa debate, I did watch the french language Montreal debate tonight. It left me undecided at least until the english debate next week.

    Here is my dilemma:
    On the one hand I think that the most important thing is for the GPC to get noticed by ordinary Canadians. When it comes to this May is the one more likely to get noticed. She is better at the “sound bites,” she has been getting a lot of exposure, passion gets noticed, she will probably be the only female leader which will make her stand out more. I feel that with her as the leader it is more likely for the Greens to be in the next debate.

    On the other hand, I recognize that while May will likely get noticed more and bring in more votes that way, at the same time she has the potential to stunt the parties growth, by appealing to a smaller group of people and has the potential to turn people off to her message. As a hard core green (and a far left of center on most issues one at that), May’s rhetoric is the one I connect with, but of course I am a party member already.

    So the question is do you go with:

    1) May who will get noticed more, but will appeal to a smaller percentage of Canadians, or
    2) David who has the potential to appeal to a larger percentage of Canadians, except those people might not hear the GPC message at all as I find him to be a little quite and passionless. (Nothing against David, I think he is amazing, and hell I can’t even speak in public, so I wouldn’t even qualify as passionless in a televised debate as I would be the one rocking in the corner sucking my thumb).

    My personal preference is still Elizabeth now to get noticed and get the greens into the debates and hopefully a couple seats. Then David to broaden the GPC appeal and get the more substantial green message out in the future. But the Calgary debates might change my mind.

  • 2006.Jun.15 @ 14:31

    Hi Trevor,

    That’s an interesting question.

    Most Canadians don’t know much about the Greens, and they are aware of that. They assume that we’re loonies, but (some of them) are willing to hear us out, and be proven wrong. We’re in the lucky situation where the population is willing to learn about us.

    If our next leader comes off as an unyielding, head-in-the-clouds, environmental zealot, people will say “that’s too bad, I thought those Greens had something interesting to say”, and ignore us for the next five years.

    Your two possible paths could be rephrased as:

    1) May will get noticed by many, but appeal to few, (while alienating some), or,
    2) David will get noticed by fewer Canadians, but appeal to many of those.

    If we follow the first path, I worry that we are unnecessarily burning bridges to part of the electorate. Once those bridges are burnt, they will be hard to rebuild. Of course, I can’t say how large that portion is, but I’m guessing middle double digits.

    e

  • 2006.Jun.18 @ 21:59

    Joining the Green Party never crossed my mind once until May entered the leadership race. I’m 20, in university, and I generally vote for the best candidate in my region – which has been from a different party every time.

    I support May, but not because she is a hard-core environmentalist. (Those people tend to drive me nuts).

    I support May because she has a diverse array of experience and knowledge that is related to, but not focused on, environmental issues – a few ex’s include the International Institute of Sustainable Development, Prevent Cancer Now!, National Round Table on the Environment and the Economy, Green Budget Coalition, a professor, a lawyer, etc.

    Plus, leading the Sierra Club of Canada she has built new groups across the country and made the Club what it is today – She essentially has over 17 years of direct organizational experience – and if that is not appealing to the presently seemingly scattered Green Party then I don’t know what is!

    Most of all I support May because she stands up for what she believes in. At this point she believes in the Green Party – and she will work within the party to bring it to new heights. Knowing May, she will instill greater organization, capacity building, a youth network (how did that get looked over, by the way?), a sense of passion (a good thing next to all those old-dry-men), and outreach to people beyond the environmental world (believe it or not).

    And everyone keep in mind that once a leader is elected, they are accountable to their party. At this point in the game, we get to know the players. But once the leader is in, they play on our team – Personal views, for a large part, get put aside and the leader speaks on behalf of the party. May wants the party to be heard and she wants it to grow – and, by golly, I think she might just do it.

    *** My main concern with Cherneshenko is that he has already held leadership roles within the Green Party… yet not much change seems to be happening. I feel as though the party will stay the same-old-same-old with him as leader – which seems to currently be hindering the party’s potential.****

    I am not well versed on Green Party politics or the direction that current members want to be going in – but as a recently-former-outsider I would say that May might just be the ground-breaking jolt that the party needs.

    Does the Green Party want to stay off the radar and scurry around in the same un-coordinated directions that it has for the last number of years? Or does it want to be pulled together as a cohesive team working towards the values and issues that affect virtually every Canadian?

    More importantly, do Canadians want to see the same parties debate the same old issues year after year? Or do we want to feel relieved, inspired, and motivated that there is a party with a conscience and a heart working to get overlooked issues into Parliament? Do we want to have the same scripted banter in the House of Commons? Or do we want someone who is not afraid to bring up issues that make others come back to the reason why they entered politics in the first place: to work for the common good of all Canadians?

    May you make the best choice.

  • 2006.Jun.19 @ 16:16

    Hi Y&R,

    Thanks for posting, and I’m glad that you’re joining the Green Party. In response to your post:

    My main concern with Cherneshenko is that he has already held leadership roles within the Green Party… yet not much change seems to be happening. I feel as though the party will stay the same-old-same-old with him as leader – which seems to currently be hindering the party’s potential.

    I’m not intimately aware of the roles that the Deputy Leaders play, but I don’t think that the DLs can do much to change the direction or appearance of the Party. I do know from the debate that David has played a hand in recent policy discussions (specifically regarding Afghanistan), but outside of those issues, I don’t think that they have much of a mandate.

    I could be wrong, however.

    e

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