Enough God, already

There's probably no god, now stop worrying and enjoy your lifeWhen OC Transpo tried to prevent atheist ads from appearing on buses, I started thinking a bit more about my philosophy. I’m an atheist. In general, I have no problem with religion, as long as people don’t use it as a weapon against others (that’s a shout-out to you al Qaeda! And you too, Jerry), or as an excuse to harm themselves (I’m looking at you, Jehovah’s Witnesses). So, as an atheist, I thought I’d start reading what other atheists had to say.

And I got bored.

There are plenty of atheist blogs out there, but they spend a lot of time talking about religion. Like 99.9% of their time. I don’t get it. Consider how far women’s magazines would have gotten if they spent all their time talking about how lame men are. Or where Sports Illustrated would be if every issue was “Chess sucks!” Or if Playboy was full of pictures of naked guys, just to show how ugly men are.

I’m an atheist. If you want me to read your blog, stop writing about religion.

I ended up emailing Ebon, who posts to Daylight Atheism. I asked him why there was so much religion on his blog. In response, he wrote back:

First is the trivial answer: [...] I keep a cache of posts that I wrote some time earlier and can release at my convenience, so the site doesn’t go dark for too long. Since these stored posts have to be timeless, many of them are about philosophical or theological topics rather than current events. [...] I think it helps to be a knowledgeable and well-equipped atheist, and I find human culture fascinating no matter how it manifests itself.

Second, and maybe more importantly: While I do write about positive atheism and humanism as often as possible, I want to maintain a balance. And one thing I’ve found is that posts which pick a fight, or disassemble an argument, often get more hits and more attention than posts which promote atheism as a positive worldview. [...] That’s not something I’m thrilled about, but that’s how it is. I don’t want my site to be all arguing all the time, but to keep things lively, it does help to stir the pot on occasion.

(I’ve abridged his response – I’ll post the whole thing in the comments)

Don’t get me wrong, I enjoy reading his Contributions of Freethinkers series, and some of the other posts up there. But I just don’t care about the fiddly bits of Christianity, and how demonstrably wrong they are.

Rod and ToddI hope this is a phase in the growth of atheism. Many posters to these blogs talk about “deconversion”1 or how they decided that religion wasn’t for them. My hope is that these are first generation atheists who are reacting against their upbringing, and that their kids will be able to be atheists who don’t care about religion, and are able to write blogs that can talk about atheism itself.

It’s too bad. I enjoy my atheism because it doesn’t force me into anything. I enjoy being able to construct my own morality. I enjoy being ethically responsible to myself. I’d like to see what my fellow atheists think about their newfound world view. I’d love to know what society would be like if atheism was the dominant philosophy. It’s a pity that I haven’t been able to find a blog that scratches that itch.

Footnotes
  1. For a well written deconversion story, take a look at Confessions of an Atheist. (back)

8 Responses to “Enough God, already”

  1. 2009.Sep.03 @ 19:16

    Ebon’s full email read:

    Hi Erigami,

    Feel free to post this on your blog, if you like. I have two answers
    to this question.

    First is the trivial answer: I’ve been extremely busy at work these past several weeks, working a lot of overtime and weekends, and I haven’t had as much time to write new posts as I’d like. For when this happens, I keep a cache of posts that I wrote some time earlier and can release at my convenience, so the site doesn’t go dark for too long. Since these stored posts have to be timeless, many of them are about philosophical or theological topics rather than current events. I realize some people find these boring, but personally, I see nothing uninteresting about carefully examining theological claims, even the more esoteric ones. I think it helps to be a knowledgeable and well-equipped atheist, and I find human culture fascinating no matter how it manifests itself.

    Second, and maybe more importantly: While I do write about positive atheism and humanism as often as possible, I want to maintain a balance. And one thing I’ve found is that posts which pick a fight, or disassemble an argument, often get more hits and more attention than posts which promote atheism as a positive worldview. Just look at how many comments there are on my most recent post responding to William Lane Craig, as opposed to the one urging atheists to sign up to make loans on Kiva. That’s not something I’m thrilled about, but that’s how it is. I don’t want my site to be all arguing all the time, but to keep things lively, it does help to stir the pot on occasion.

    He was responding to:

    Hi again,

    Daylightatheism.org is your blog, and I enjoy reading it, so I’d like to ask you the following: why so much focus on religion? Your recent “Free Will and Evil” post is entirely about Christianity. Ditto for Monday’s “Resurrection Creed” post. Which is fine (since it’s your blog), but why do you expect atheists to care? We’re already atheists. We don’t need another reason to be atheists.

    On the off chance you’re interested in what one of your readers thinks: religion is interesting because it tells us where we’re from, and what our cultural ancestors cared about. If you do want to cover religion, branch out, explore polytheistic religions such as Hinduism, Shintoism, or the pre-colonization religions of North America. Even better, move away from religion, and explore how atheists fit into society. Something similar to what a rabbi/priest/imam would do. You could look at current events and talk about those from an atheist perspective.

    Regardless of what you decide to do, keep up the good work.

    e

    PS: I’m probably going to post this on PiePalace.ca, at some point. If you want to respond to this email, keep in mind that it will probably be posted as well.

  • 2009.Sep.03 @ 22:29

    I think as a subject matter atheism is pretty boring. As atheist we don’t go around trying to save people or practicing any strange rituals. Really atheism is just something that we accepted one day.

    If you ask an atheist how the got to their philosophical point of view it will probably go “Well I thought about it for awhile, then I just figured it out.” Sure maybe some people will have tried alot of religious/spiritual experiences first but really, they just figured it out.

    What have you done lately that has been affected by being an atheist?

  • 2009.Sep.03 @ 23:54

    Well, there’s no such thing as “Atheist culture” or “Atheist community” or “Atheist doctrine”; atheism can only be described by comparing it against religion. As with Russell’s Teapot, if religion didn’t exist, atheism wouldn’t exist and you wouldn’t need to talk about it. Contrast that with your example of women’s magazines: if men didn’t exist, “women’s magazines” would simply be “magazines”, and there would still be lots to talk about.

    So if you are looking for blogs that focus on issues pertaining to atheism, then by definition they’re going to talk about religion. I don’t know what exactly you mean by positive atheism, but it sounds like you want a “diet religion” blog, which give recipes for all the satisfying religious experiences you like, with substitutions so you don’t get all those nasty calories.

    All other “atheist blogs” are simply blogs which talk about life. You just don’t notice them because they don’t mention God, neither in praise nor in scorn.

    - RG>

  • 2009.Oct.06 @ 17:41

    I agree with the other commenters. If it’s a morality you figure out for yourself, why do you want to talk about it? To compare it to other atheists moralities? To gather together and discuss atheism? To argue about each others’ moralities? Then it’s a religion. I thought the whole point was that it was personal and individual and not something to hold forth about?

  • 2009.Dec.02 @ 13:42

    I disagree with you. I find it both entertaining and enlightening to read someone’s deconstruction of religion.

  • 2009.Dec.02 @ 14:03

    Arguing that getting together and discussing various moralities is a religion is like saying that going to the Firestone store and shopping for tires is the same as buying a car. It is one aspect of religion.

    Are you sreiously arguing that people shouldn’t discuss morality outside of the context of religion?

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